simonlpearce Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Autocar Linky Do they produce a 135d, surely this would be almost just as quick if the do? Either way though i think they could make for a decent very reasonably priced motor in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I think there's a 123d, not sure about the 135. There's a 135i though, and it's very fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Yeah saw the 135i, could you imagine if they stuck the twin turbo 135d in there out of the 3er, that would be a serious M1 contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Isn't that like saying the 335d is a serious M3 contender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Isn't that like saying the 335d is a serious M3 contender? Might it be close in real world driving if remapped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Isn't that like saying the 335d is a serious M3 contender? It is indeed but as the 335 lump would be in a lighter car then it too would be an m1/m3 contender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Might it be close in real world driving if remapped? Oh come on, next you'll be saying you can keep up with a Porsche To be honest though for real world driving I'd probably rather have the diesel! It is indeed but as the 335 lump would be in a lighter car then it too would be an m1/m3 contender? So what you mean is a remaped 135d might be a M3 contender. The M1 will still have the most powerful engine available in the 1-series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Oh come on, next you'll be saying you can keep up with a Porsche To be honest for real world driving I'd probably rather have the diesel! What you on about Mit...did you not mean to say that the Porsche can keep up with me...?! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 335d engines can see 350+ bhp and 510 lbs/ft of torque from a remap (probably more if you prefer power over reliability) id prefer this any day to an M3. Put this into a 1 series chassis with a manual box it probably would stay with an M3 especially from a rolling start as theres less weight to move. StuBeeDoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Syxx Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I think it would be sacreligious if they call that thing an M1! There is and only ever be one M1 and thats the original. I'm still not sold over these 1-series even if it is rapid. The coupe just looks wrong. I would have a 3 series everytime. But hey as the saying goes, horses for courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Had a big discussion about this on another forum. The performance times quoted are wrong (its states 5.5sec 0-60 which is slower than the current 135, the E46 M3 and a Z3M Coupe which all manage under 5.2). Also, the quoted bhp of 350 can be achieved quite easily on the 135, with a change of intercooler and a remap; the addition of both will cost much less than the £8k premium it carries over a 135. So is it worth it? For the money why not have a year old, full-fat E92 M3 with over 400bhp? Saying that, I do 'get' the 1er, and love them to bits - very cool cars. It seems like it doesn't really know what its proposition is. Unless they give it more bhp and make it looks something really special, I'd rather buy the 135 and spend the £8k change on the full BMW Performance options (tuning pack with inter cooler, steering wheel, bbk, suspension, exhaust, CF goodness etc). And I don't agree with these diesel comparisons - sure the big, turboed diesels can have similar performance, but IMO you buy a petrol sports car so you can take it to the 8k redline... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_Burns Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 For the money why not have a year old, full-fat E92 M3 with over 400bhp? Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 It has to be agreed you do buy a petrol to see it go as high as 8k on the redline, i wasnt suggesting they should have made a diesel i was just suprised at the figures stated. However from another read i think it does state that these figures are not actual and just estimates. I am also a big fan of the 1er though, i saw a couple last year up close and they do look tidy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_Burns Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I am the only one who thinks they look sh*t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I am the only one who thinks they look sh*t? No lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz 330 Cs Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Yeah saw the 135i, could you imagine if they stuck the twin turbo 135d in there out of the 3er, that would be a serious M1 contender. The 135 is a Twin Turbo .... as is the 123d . And I don't agree with these diesel comparisons - sure the big, turboed diesels can have similar performance, but IMO you buy a petrol sports car so you can take it to the 8k redline... Hmm ....You rev to the 8k redline , while the Stinky Diesel driver has changed Up a cog , with Maximum Torque @ around 3 - 3500k and is Pulling away from you like a Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_North Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I am the only one who thinks they look sh*t? +1 Never really been keen on the 1 series. To me they just look too small, when I think of a BMW coupe it should be long and sleek and wide, yet I see these and they look out of proportion IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'd prefer a 135... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bip78 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 That thing will take OFF! WOO HOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyZ Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Prob will b quite fast but just looks wrong, also as stated will be an offence to the original and Proper M1 to make this car lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben. Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Evo test a mapped 335i vs. a M3 and the 335i is actually quicker in most cases. Get to a corner however and that changes. This should be a machine though, especially when fettled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahim-mo Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 WTF ! They can't get a BMW 1 series and call it an M1. No wucking fay! This is what an M1 is and has always been since 1978: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 WTF ! They can't get a BMW 1 series and call it an M1. No wucking fay! This is what an M1 is and has always been since 1978: Yeah hopefully they wont called it the M1, as then my number plate will be worth less than when they re-release the proper M1. Well hopefully, then im rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikz Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I hate 1 series sorry but just hate them and most seem to be driven by total idiots-well at least in Bedfordshire!!! Sorry just cant like them-especially those poxy hatchback things ewww! I know they are quick and am sure this M1 will be but M3 or M6 anyday of the week for me! (if I had the money of course!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMA 330 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 when i saw this thread i got excited that bmw had changed there minds and actually decided to make this but alas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...