Rich330ci Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 As per title, what options are there for the 330ci, i know all about the M3 diff and theres the quaife ATB diff available, but who else makes/supplies lsd for our cars? i will be wanting to get one fitted in the near future in my 3.38 diff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyZ Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Theres been at least 2 topics bout this lately dude, search is your friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 1. Call bank manager 2. Get Quaife. You can put in a M3 diff but you have to change driveline and axles and stuff too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 yeah i've had a look and not really found the info i'm looking for, most are about M3 diff or quaife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 1. Call bank manager 2. Get Quaife. You can put in a M3 diff but you have to change driveline and axles and stuff too. the man from bank say yes! lol i doubt i will go for a M3 diff, just want to see what other options there is before i buy a quaife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blair Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Gripper would be a cheaper option from dave mac propshafts in Coventry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted September 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Gripper would be a cheaper option from dave mac propshafts in Coventry cheers fella, i've just sent a email so will wait and see what they say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 cheers fella, i've just sent a email so will wait and see what they say! i've had a few emails regarding a gripper LSD, they are looking to do some work on the fitment for ours so will just wait and see how successful they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Kaaz do one. But bear in mind that a mechanical LSD like the M3 is, is imo much better than a helical one like the quaife. Think you have to service the quiafe every 20k or so as well. M3 whole rear axle, and adapt the prop shaft. Thats what i would do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 You know a helical gear is still mechanical right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydn Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 just a point about HELICAL gears... I use them in my helicopters....A helical gear gives you 2 contact points on the APEX of the mesh and are a lot less NOISE generating than strait cut gear meshes...A helical gear will allow more power through the train before catostrophic destruction from overpower ..the downside of a helical gear is it pulls to one direction as it loads up so wears out bearings on the loaded side really fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I obviously is still mechanical, but works differently to the M3 one. TBH you would never really tell whilist driving, well unless you were powering into every corner etc But I still personally think the M3 one is harder wearing, and a better design for everyday use. If it was a track toy only, and you were ok able to service it every year, then the quaife would be fine. Well I'm sure the quaife would be fine anyway, but I know a few people admitadly in the VW world who have had to get theirs rebuilt, and more than once in a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_S Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Kaaz do one. But bear in mind that a mechanical LSD like the M3 is, is imo much better than a helical one like the quaife. Think you have to service the quiafe every 20k or so as well. M3 whole rear axle, and adapt the prop shaft. Thats what i would do! I used to run a Kaaz 2 way in my drift car and we used to change the oil after every other drift day or 1k miles, whichever came sooner. Normal Helicals, you should get away with doing it every year at least. And Helicals are a lot lot quieter than a Mech diff. Like, you'd never know it was any thing different to the Open diff til you put your foot down. Quaife ATB is my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 The Quaife is very hard wearing. It has a lifetime guarantee. It works differently to the M-Diff and mechanically is constantly transferring power to whichever wheel has the most grip. My brother has a quaife and it's a fantastic piece of kit. I prefer the way it feels to teh M-Diffs I've had on the E36/E46/M Coupe. I would certainly go for a Quaife if I were in your shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've been waiting to see if they can develop the gripper LSD for our cars and so far they have done the 330D LSD and are currently working on the 330ci fitment apparently, if not i think i will be going down the quaife ATB diff route! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 They do one especialy for the 330d then? Umm! I want one ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've been waiting to see if they can develop the gripper LSD for our cars and so far they have done the 330D LSD and are currently working on the 330ci fitment apparently, if not i think i will be going down the quaife ATB diff route! Who/what is a gripper and where can I get more info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blair Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Who/what is a gripper and where can I get more info? See post #6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich330ci Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've been talking to neil at automac and they have been developing them for the e46, he did say they had finished off the 330d lsd and was ready to fit/test iirc, and was about to start on the 330ci lsd, this was mid november last time i emailed him, Gripper have been making plate LSD's for a while now, i've driven a few fwd cars with them but not experienced a rwd with one as yet, i'm not in a mad rush as i don't drive the car that much with having the works van and winters here so not to worried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hmmmmmmm.. Not cheaper by much then! A gripper is £850 (exc. VAT and delivery) from them whereas the Quaife from Birds is £830 exc. VAT and delivery.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blair Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hmmmmmmm.. Not cheaper by much then! A gripper is £850 (exc. VAT and delivery) from them whereas the Quaife from Birds is £830 exc. VAT and delivery.. Depending on what day you ask them!!! They quoted me a different price every time!!!! Also I think the price for the quaife is just for the parts & the gripper is fitted into your diff casing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_S Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Add about £100+vat for fitting into the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman68 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Kaaz do one. But bear in mind that a mechanical LSD like the M3 is, is imo much better than a helical one like the quaife. Think you have to service the quiafe every 20k or so as well. M3 whole rear axle, and adapt the prop shaft. Thats what i would do! Don't agree at all Quaife atb LSD is top draw I think personally much better the the m3 oem LSD. I suppose it's down to personal opinion really. You'd be crazy to replace a modify the driveshaft with the m3 setup. Go Quaife it will slot straight no messing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman68 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hmmmmmmm.. Not cheaper by much then! A gripper is £850 (exc. VAT and delivery) from them whereas the Quaife from Birds is £830 exc. VAT and delivery.. Do forget the installation into the casing cost and fitting. I'd say add £150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Don't agree at all Quaife atb LSD is top draw I think personally much better the the m3 oem LSD. I suppose it's down to personal opinion really. You'd be crazy to replace a modify the driveshaft with the m3 setup. Go Quaife it will slot straight no messing about. But even just down to cost, the M3 setup would be cheaper, plus you get bigger rear brakes of you get the whole rear subframe. I've never had a quaife, so perhaps I'm not the best to give accurate opinions, but there's reasons why I have never had one ;.) well as I said on my previous post. I know a few people who have had them in track preped vw golfs, and have them fail, and as they were not serviced to quaifes schedule, they did nothing. But again, if it was one or nothing, I would still do it ;.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...