Rich_D Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 You'd get oil temp on the M3, but none of the other E46's Do we know that for a fact? I ask because I thought Oil Temp was available over the k-bus (which feeds instrument cluster) but NOT the i-bus (which feeds the radio). And that was the case whether it's an M car or not (the only difference being that the M cars have a gauge to display the k-bus oil info, whilst the non-M cars don't). I could be wrong of course. One way to tell if I'm wrong would be if the factory nav screen can display oil temp on an M3 Possibly not then, I know I can get the oil temp to display on the cluster on my M5, but the OEM nav screens don't show coolant temp, letalone oil temp, you get mpg, avg speed, range, ext temp, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 there is an oil temp sensor on the 330ci the m3 cluster i put in shows the oil temp fine without modification o rly Yeah http://youtu.be/rerL18XAZko Rich_D and Rob- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungers Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It's a shame though, isn't it, since Oil Temp would be much more useful! I can confirm Sygic 12.1 works fine on the N6, I've put it on the issues micro SD so I can switch between iGo & Sygic at my leisure. Good news. Also Navigon works after a bit of config file editing (I tested 7.4.3), as does Igo 8. (8.3.2) Basically any WinCE nav program should work provided you can edit its config files to tell it the GPS is on COM 2 at 38400 baud I failed at getting TMC to work on Navigon though. The N6 TMC chip is a RoyalTek on COM 3 at 38400, but Navigon only accepts GNS TMC. There used to be a workaround for the older Dynavins using a utility called MixSer (which took the COM3 Royaltek output and reconfigured it to look like GNS output on COM6) but it won't run on the N6. Annoying, as I really liked Navigon on my D90. And I hate Primo with a passion. So I've settled on Igo8. Does Sygic have TMC? I might give that a go if it does. Sygic does have TMC, what frequency have you got it set to as within iGo it just says scanning various frequencies & never actually shows any TMC events? what about tomtom? i am using it on the andrive via andriod TomTom was dropped ages ago for the WINCE platform, you can get Navigator on it but it's very dated IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_D Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 TMC works best with Classic FM for me, using the OEM setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 You'd get oil temp on the M3, but none of the other E46's Do we know that for a fact? I ask because I thought Oil Temp was available over the k-bus (which feeds instrument cluster) but NOT the i-bus (which feeds the radio). And that was the case whether it's an M car or not (the only difference being that the M cars have a gauge to display the k-bus oil info, whilst the non-M cars don't). I could be wrong of course. One way to tell if I'm wrong would be if the factory nav screen can display oil temp on an M3 Possibly not then, I know I can get the oil temp to display on the cluster on my M5, but the OEM nav screens don't show coolant temp, letalone oil temp, you get mpg, avg speed, range, ext temp, etc... Yup. mpg, avg speed, range, ext temp are all available on the E39 i-bus. People refer to 'CANBUS' without appreciating that it comprises more than one bus. Only the i-bus is available at the radio harness connector. Bungers, have you (or anyone else) noticed that the RDS TA doesn't work? If you have TA selected on the radio, it should interrupt other sources when a Traffic Announcement is made. Except it doesn't. Or not on mine at least.. It should be something they can fix in a software release though. The great thing is that, for the first time for them, Dynavin have built in a software update capability. Small niggles though. Overall they seem to have done quite a decent job. You agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Sygic does have TMC, what frequency have you got it set to as within iGo it just says scanning various frequencies & never actually shows any TMC events? Sounds like Sygic isn't looking at the correct port for the TMC signal. It's on COM3, at 38400 baud. Some nav software will self-configure the ports, but most don't. I assume Sygic doesn't. Look through the .ini and .txt files on the SD card and you should eventually find the line where the TMC port is set. Edited July 19, 2014 by elfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Or, If it's IGO8 or Primo you're not getting TMC with, make sure you have this in your sys.txt file [tmc] show_tmc=1 port="COM,3" baud=38400 source="royaltek" Edited July 19, 2014 by elfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4nky808 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It's a shame though, isn't it, since Oil Temp would be much more useful! I'm sure, through my many hours of scouring the forum, that somebody had managed to get M3 clocks working in a 330 and that everything worked except the warm up LED's (including the oil temp gauge). If that is the case, then surely the ability would be there for this unit to read oil temp when fitted to a 330? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It's a shame though, isn't it, since Oil Temp would be much more useful! I'm sure, through my many hours of scouring the forum, that somebody had managed to get M3 clocks working in a 330 and that everything worked except the warm up LED's (including the oil temp gauge). If that is the case, then surely the ability would be there for this unit to read oil temp when fitted to a 330? No. As I said above, the instrumentation data comes from the k-bus. The radio information comes from the i-bus. They are not the same bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3NXN Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It's a shame though, isn't it, since Oil Temp would be much more useful! I'm sure, through my many hours of scouring the forum, that somebody had managed to get M3 clocks working in a 330 and that everything worked except the warm up LED's (including the oil temp gauge). If that is the case, then surely the ability would be there for this unit to read oil temp when fitted to a 330? I remember reading something similar, I think it was only last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It was me, I posted a video of it post #52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 It was me, I posted a video of it post #52 Yes, but it's not the same bus. The data available at the instrument harness is NOT the data available at the radio harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yeah in want on about that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robocoupe Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 The demo from Dynavin USA shows the navi as still being quite laggy. Your demo did`nt show much of iGo (for location reasons I guess) but can you confirm if that program is still slow on the N6, is Sygic any slicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungers Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 There's absolutely minimal lag. In my video I planned a route to Edinburgh (from Northampton) so you can see the responsiveness. Sygic is about the same, although I've only checked that it runs so far. robocoupe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty338 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Iv just bought my 330 and it has come with the older dynavin - im pretty impressed by it. having had the older version yourself - would you think its worth splashing out on the newer version? i really like my current one - i dont have any upgraded audio yet - can you tell me hows the sound difference etc? £600 is a lot for a HU so id expect to be able to hear the difference to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungers Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 If you're happy with what you've got I'd say it's not worth the outlay. If you're not, then I'd say it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfer Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Iv just bought my 330 and it has come with the older dynavin - im pretty impressed by it. having had the older version yourself - would you think its worth splashing out on the newer version? i really like my current one - i dont have any upgraded audio yet - can you tell me hows the sound difference etc? £600 is a lot for a HU so id expect to be able to hear the difference to be honest My N6 replaced an older Dynavin, the D90 (or "v5") model from 2010-2011. I run aftermarket amps and speakers, so can't say how much of a SQ improvement there'd be on stock equipment, but I'd expect it to be relatively subtle. The biggest change is really in the user interface on the music side. It's not that the N6 does any more than the D90, just that it does it all in a more cohesive way. In hindsight, I could have saved the money and stuck the older model. Except I really do like the new interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungers Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 FYI, here's the user manual: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6D3ztMGo27LVFk4RE4tV0tOUmc/edit?usp=sharing Here's the instructions for how to allocate icons to radio station presets (note, the icons are not loaded onto the unit so if you remove the SD card, the display reverts to the default black window): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6D3ztMGo27LR0hpWlRUX3FfY0k/edit?usp=sharing I'm getting together a collection of BMW specific boot splash screens & will post them when all done. Gravy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 thanks for that, i have started making my icons already im going to try this boot screen and these are jeffs of fanatics momo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungers Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Here's one more until I can get the rest of the images I have in the correct resolution: Edited July 21, 2014 by bungers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Any updates on this mate? Quick Q - how does the sound compare to the OEM unit? Obv. not expecting it to be as good as a proper after market HU but I'm hoping its at least pretty good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) I have this mate, the sound quality is vastly improved from the OEM business head unit in my opinion. Edited August 4, 2014 by Gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 That's good to hear! Was sat in my brothers A6 with his Nav system. We listen to similar/same music and I heard tones/notes on his system that you simply don't hear on mine! lol. Think I might have to upgrade the speakers too once I get the N6. I think my drivers door speaker is dying/dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_D Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 In my previous 330d when I swapped from the OEM business head unit to the Dynavin D90, it sounded no worse and if anything a little better, the speakers are the limiting factor though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
