Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Hey guys, I've got HSD monopro coilovers and am running the short drop links (they're hyundai I believe??) but they're a bit too short meaning the brake lines are able to rub the ARB, obviously not good! Other than going to adjustables, are there any others people use to combat this? There cable tied away from the ARB at present but I want a permanent fix. I did think about removing the ARB entirely, but after reading a few threads, people think it would be detrimental to handling. Thanks! Edited October 7, 2014 by Midnightclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerFish Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm running standard droplinks on my HSDs. No issues with anything. (Indeed, I tried the shorter ones and found that they messed the ARB position up IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Hmm.. I do still have my old droplinks, maybe worth swapping them back but they looked too long. Out of interest, do your HSD's have the adjustable drop link mounting plate or is it fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerFish Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Mine's adjustable, which may explain it I guess. Yours is fixed I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Yes annoyingly mines fixed.. Do you have monopro too or are they the DualTec(?). Long shot I know, but do you have any pictures of how the droplink is relative to the shock body? After looking on HSD's site they advise that monopro do have adjustable ARB mounting bracket, so I've messaged them to find out why mine doesn't have this. Edited October 7, 2014 by Midnightclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerFish Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ah, right. Mine's DT, sadly. And yes, amazingly, I do! Midnightclub 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Wow, didn't expect that! Nice one! Was that picture taken with the car on the floor or in the air? At least I've got something to compare mine to now. What do you have your adjusters set to as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 OP - Your HSD's will have adjustable drop link mounts so you can just run standard drop links. I have fitted a few sets of these and never had any issues. You probably have them setup wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 They 100% don't have an adjustable mount, it's welded to the shock body for a start! lol. If it was adjustable I wouldn't have this problem. I can only assume they're an earlier generation before they changed design or something.. Will see what they come back with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerFish Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 I think they're both on the floor, but they're not recent, so I can't really recall. The early ones came with fixed brackets and adjustable links I think, but they changed it for some reason. Adjusters are fairly low now I think, there's not much space left - maybe a cm or two at the most? If it helps, which I don't imagine it does, it sits like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Thanks for the pic, I thought they must have been an earlier design or something. Hopefully they can offer me some adjustable links which aren't silly money.. Mine isn't THAT low, will grab a pic on the way to lunch so people can see my predicament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Fair play i didn't realise they had changed the design. Have a look at McGill motorsports, you can get rose jointed adjustable drop links from there for not too much money! Midnightclub 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Fair play i didn't realise they had changed the design. Have a look at McGill motorsports, you can get rose jointed adjustable drop links from there for not too much money! Thanks for the suggestion, there prices do seem very reasonable! Would you possibly be able to suggest what I'd need from there (as they seem to sell the components individually)? And does anyone know the length of the original links off the top of there head? I've popped McGill a message seeing if they can suggest what would be best, although did find this: From this thread: http://www.e46zone.com/forum/topic/41123-running-with-no-front-anti-roll-bar/ 1meter m12 rod 4 x m12 rose joints 4xm12 jam nuts 4x m12-m10 reducers4xm10 button head bolts 8x m10 washers 4xm10 nylocks Edited October 7, 2014 by Midnightclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 If you find out what length you need then tell McGill they should be able to spec it up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Awesome, hoping that's the case. From what I can tell, the shortened links are around 160mm, and need to be a couple of inches longer, so imagine it would be around 220-240mm needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Okay, got a couple of pics before the heavens opened.. There is literally no chance the original drop links are going to work here, so there goes that idea...! As you can see, no way a stock link will fit here: and the clearance I've got with cable ties.. you can see where it's been rubbing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 That's my picture you posted and the joints didn't last long at all then I replaced them but put the rubber boots on and they lasted much longer You can get more noise from them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Have you got the shock located correctly in the hub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) That's my picture you posted and the joints didn't last long at all then I replaced them but put the rubber boots on and they lasted much longer You can get more noise from them though The road noise doesn't really bother me much.. Thanks for your advice. Have you got the shock located correctly in the hub Yeah, there's only one way you can mount it, there's a metal lug that fits between the gap at the back of the strut where it locates. Had a reply back from HSD, they confirmed around 2-3 years ago they changed design. They offered me the newer design mounting bracket... for £50 (£15 each, plus £7.50 for each extra locking collar)! Or they advise I get adjustable links. Edited October 7, 2014 by Midnightclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Waiting to hear back from McGill after giving them some measurements. In the mean time, I've found that ford puma/mk1 focus drop links are around 238mm which seems about right for what I need and also happen to only cost about £10 a set so may give those a go and see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318E46 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 I had same issue as you but i read online that i had to have both sides of the car in the air and undo both drop links. It will allow you to push the roll bar down far enough so you can put standard drop links in. I actually spoke to driftworks (HSD supplier) and they told me HSD are actually designed to work with standard drop links Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Do you have the fixed or adjustable ARB mounting point though? I just can't see the stock links fitting, they're literally double the length of what's in there currently. Any chance you could take a picture of how yours is? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318E46 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Mine are fixed. They look way too long to fit but they actually do. Sorry no pics! Ill try get one tomorrow if i can Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightclub Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Hmm.. fair enough, do you find yourself rinsing through drop links or do they last 'normally'? If you could grab a pic when you get a chance that would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318E46 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ive had my new coilovers on for the last 6 months and i bought brand new standard drop links and haven't had to change them once still going strong! Yep i will grab a pic next time i have my wheels off! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
