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Whats parts are required to convert a facelifted e46 to a pre-facelift?

Im Thinking

Bonnet

Lights

Wings

Side Repeaters

Front Bumper

Some people have the opinion that the facelift model is "fresher" etc… where personally I think it's a lot softer and more mainstream, and a generally unpleasing look… the main thing being those horrid front lights… I hate them, much prefer the pre-facelift look. I think the M3 didn't get the facelift because BMW realised it was a better look and the facelift on non-M cars would differentiate the two model's more.

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surely buying a pre facelift version of your car is going to be cheaper. You can probably sell the facelift version for more money and buy a pre facelift with less miles. Then you don't need to buy all the other parts as well?

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But the facelifted model does have its advantages, such as

Newer car (would still be under 12 year rust warranty (if 04 onwards))

Newer engine & ECU (184bhp vs 204bhp) (more tuneable with remap, fmic, decat etc…)

6 Speed box (better for motorway driving, and stronger I believe)

Other revisions which are an improvement.

I just don't like the front of it (mainly the lights)

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But the facelifted model does have its advantages, such as

Newer car (would still be under 12 year rust warranty (if 04 onwards))

Newer engine & ECU (184bhp vs 204bhp) (more tuneable with remap, fmic, decat etc…)

6 Speed box (better for motorway driving, and stronger I believe)

Other revisions which are an improvement.

I just don't like the front of it (mainly the lights)

Understandable points, however you wouldn't get the rust warranty as you are changing the front wings to the older style ones.

Also the £500-£1k you might save on buying a pre-facelift you could spend on rust treatment and prevention. (eg undercoating insides of all the wings etc.)

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Is there such a thing as an e46 with the 204bhp engine / box on a pre-facelift model ?

No, i don't believe so.

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Nope!

The E46 saloon/tourer was facelifted in 2002, the 204bhp engine came out in late 2003. The 330Cd was only ever a facelift coupe..

But as above, no point doing this at all IMO! Silly idea.. Sorry. :)

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The lights, apart from possibly the indicator mountings, are the same, except for the front glass lens/black trims.

Nope!

The E46 saloon/tourer was facelifted in 2002, the 204bhp engine came out in late 2003. The 330Cd was only ever a facelift coupe..

But as above, no point doing this at all IMO! Silly idea.. Sorry. :)

I know of a Sept' '01 built 330d sport facelift (184).

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The lights, apart from possibly the indicator mountings, are the same, except for the front glass lens/black trims.

Nope!

The E46 saloon/tourer was facelifted in 2002, the 204bhp engine came out in late 2003. The 330Cd was only ever a facelift coupe..

But as above, no point doing this at all IMO! Silly idea.. Sorry. :)

I know of a Sept' '01 built 330d sport facelift (184).

I know of it to its mine pmsl
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The E46 saloon/tourer was facelifted in 2002,

I know of a Sept' '01 built 330d sport facelift (184).

Saloon/touring facelift was for 2002 model year. Production started 01 Sept '01, IIRC. So AFAIK you're both right. :thumbsup:

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