Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Considering options for 330ci M Sport 6 speed Manual. Is there much that can be done to squeeze out a bit more BHP and some more grunt. Would rather not change exhaust at present may go for this later in the year though. Would like any views on members that have done this thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Other than exhaust, decat manifolds, proper induction kit, cams and a remap their really isn't much available. Easiest way is to go supercharged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Ok what would be a good starting point without killing my wallet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasa Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Jeremy Sawyer said: Ok what would be a good starting point without killing my wallet? nothing for an n/a car..you need a turbo or super charger as has been said,,you might get 20 bhp if you spend a bit on remap/induction etc etc but it aint worth the outlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes looking at it I agree. Think I will really look after this model well and keep it in its original set up. Your right not worth throwing money at it for 20bhp. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz 330 Cs Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 A re map won’t even see anywhere near 20 horses, and I’m talking from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 The 330 challenge boys are getting 260bhp from theirs and as far as im aware they only have m52 manifolds/ custom and a custom 1 piece exhaust system, ram air filter and ducting and a remap. Daz, when did you jave yours mapped? Did you have any extras fitted to the car ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 That would interesting to find out exactly what they do to get to 260 bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasa Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Daz 330 Cs said: A re map won’t even see anywhere near 20 horses, and I’m talking from experience. yeh,,i never meant just a remap..i was on about all the other gubbins,,ie without a turbo or a super charger..when i buy a car i do a bit of research beforehand..ie what the car is capable of for the outlay etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yes I hear what you are saying. Very happy with the performance. Always looking to push boundaries I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasa Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Jeremy Sawyer said: That would interesting to find out exactly what they do to get to 260 bhp 260 is only 30 bhp though,,and quite a bit to do ie manifold etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz 330 Cs Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 20 hours ago, R11CH said: Daz, when did you jave yours mapped? Did you have any extras fitted to the car ? No mate, nothing else. It’s a few years ago now, probably way back in 2008 or 2009... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, rasa said: 260 is only 30 bhp though,,and quite a bit to do ie manifold etc Exactly its not a lot is it 30bhp but then thats NA tuning, it left the factory very nearly at its peak. 2 hours ago, Daz 330 Cs said: No mate, nothing else. It’s a few years ago now, probably way back in 2008 or 2009... As above in standard form it really is pointless having it mapped even if mapping has come along a bit more since 2008 its at its peak with all factory components. I have m52 manifolds and downpipes ready to go on mine to completely decat the car, coupled with the bmw performance exhaust and modified airbox i would like to see a good gain but this is all in prep for going supercharged. Edited January 15, 2018 by R11CH avalaugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasa Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 11 hours ago, R11CH said: Exactly its not a lot is it 30bhp but then thats NA tuning, it left the factory very nearly at its peak. As above in standard form it really is pointless having it mapped even if mapping has come along a bit more since 2008 its at its peak with all factory components. I have m52 manifolds and downpipes ready to go on mine to completely decat the car, coupled with the bmw performance exhaust and modified airbox i would like to see a good gain but this is all in prep for going supercharged. how much will going SC cost when all is done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 11 hours ago, rasa said: how much will going SC cost when all is done.. Probably about 4 - 4.5k with me fitting it all but thats going to include running water methanol injection system and hopefully mapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalaugh Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 It adds up way to fast Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 hours ago, avalaugh said: It adds up way to fast Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sure does! Told myself i wouldn't do this again after my Civic chassis tear down and build up but here we go again haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govich Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Realistically the NA tuning stuff is nice enough, you might get a few 10s of hp & it'll feel faster because it's making more noise, in the real world all that power will be right up top and not particularly relevant. I bought my car with a flash tune that actually reduced peak power, I wouldn't waste your money. The Vortech-based supercharger kits transform the thing & make for a really nice road car, as quick as anything non-M that BMW is putting out today and your butt dyno will definitely feel the difference from right down low in the rev range. Peak bhp in the 300s without changing the exhaust, 320s with an exhaust change, still meet emissions if you keep the rear cats & 25-28 mpg daily is my experience after 10k odd miles without issues. Good luck.. avalaugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 So Govich you have had this done then when and where and what was your total outlay? Just going to weigh it all up also consider the implications of possible extra maintenance as a result of supercharger? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalaugh Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 So Govich you have had this done then when and where and what was your total outlay? Just going to weigh it all up also consider the implications of possible extra maintenance as a result of supercharger? Thanks! I believe Govich May be selling his set up, send him a PM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk govich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh 320d Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Sell it and get a 330d, you will not be dissapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Well to be honest I like the Petrol engine better the noise of the 6 cylinder is great. Also I have an individual car so not interested in selling. Just a fact finding mission really. But thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govich Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, avalaugh said: I believe Govich May be selling his set up, send him a PM Postponed it for now... It's too much fun on these cold nights 23 hours ago, Jeremy Sawyer said: So Govich you have had this done then when and where and what was your total outlay? Just going to weigh it all up also consider the implications of possible extra maintenance as a result of supercharger? Thanks! The ESS VT1 kit was about £4k delivered. I put Ignition Projects coils in for £500 (arguably necessary, the stock coils wear quicker but avalaugh's were OK) and if you do the headers, depending on what route you choose it'll set you back somewhere around £500-1000. Aside from a supercharger oil change every 7500 miles and doing the engine oil & filter more frequently, it hasn't needed any more maintenance. You'd probably get a high miles 335i for about the same price as all of that these days but IMO the E46 is a sweeter drive, doing the install is rewarding and I love the sleeper thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Sawyer Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks for the info a lot to think about and cost to consider. Appreciate you taking the time to spell it all out in detail. Will weigh it all up for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R11CH Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 hours ago, govich said: Postponed it for now... It's too much fun on these cold nights Are you going turbo as well ? Is yours a ESS kit ? Thought it was a VF kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
