autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I don't recall anyone on here using it as this forum doesn't do performance stuff really but thought I would ask I'm considering it for my clubsport just a 50 - 75 shot via a controller from wizards of nos anyone ever used there kit before Please no fast and furious references im just after information on quality of kit Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz 330 Cs Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Please no fast and furious references im just after information on quality of kit If the cap fits ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 How much would the kit set you back out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 You can get a six point direct port kit a controller and a used manifold m54b30tu to drill for foggers for a grand so 75 bhp available when you want it with no lost fuel economy during normal driving And the bottles are not expensive to refil either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamN Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 This is quite interesting. I wonder how the rest of the engine/car would cope with 75bhp added instantly.. Would anything else need upgrading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das_flo Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Only problem i'd forsee is carrying a potentially explosive gas bottle in your boot, might have an effect on your insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 So you're talking £13.50 (there or there abouts) per 1bhp added. Not a bad price at all really. And as you say, during normal driving mpg would stay exactly the same as normal. I can only echo what's said above, how would the rest of the car hold up to a sudden surge of power like that? You're talking a 32% power increase over stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 It wouldn't be an instant kick as I don't think the gearbox would like it too much the controller pulses the solenoids slower to start with to take some of the kick out of it I think the insurance would need to know but the 60 litres of petrol in the car already is pretty explosive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhail97 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Years ago my mate had a (very) crude NOS system in his renault 5 turbo, it kept popping driveshafts as the power was too much too soon. It was a laugh though (no pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 http://www.noswizard.com/index.php/nitrous-control/nitrous-controllers/minimax-nitrous-controller.html You start the power at 30 percent and it builds up to 100 percent and you can alter the time I takes to get to full flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhail97 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've just seen they do NOS for diesels! This system has the potential to increase the power of your engine by up to 150 horsepower. 300bhp from a 320d touring, yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 They have done kits for diesels they are just dry kits so no fuel is injected as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobius Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Was it 5th gear that nos'd a golf diesel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The one where they were overtaking lorrys and I'm sure Top gear fitted nitrous to a White jag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimzimmer46 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 60 litres of petrol in the car already is pretty explosive lol Just abit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm pretty sure this has to be declared on insurance and from memory most companies won't insure you for it. I know what you're saying about the fuel in the petrol tank but thats been designed by the manufacturers of the car to stop it exploding in the event of a collision. If you have the NOS tank in the boot and someone rear-ends you its not fitted to the car the same and has a higher risk of exploding. If I was you i'd just sell up and buy a diesel and remap it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Alot of companies just see it as a compressed gas I see what your saying about nod being tested and the other being aftermarket but the bottles are mega strong Hell no mate I have to drive a stinky diesel for work not doing it for my fun car lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr T Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I don't think there is too much concern with the additional stress as you only use the NOS once rolling and up in the rev range. I looked into this a while ago just to help with overtakes as my little 318 isn't much good at that but it's cheeper to drop back and get a run up, although a 200bhp 318 would be funny I do certainly see the value of the idea though, lets face it if you drive everyday you are unlikely to use all the power all the time, same reason why forced induction is coming back into vogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz 330 Cs Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I can only echo what's said above, how would the rest of the car hold up to a sudden surge of power like that? You're talking a 32% power increase over stock. It wont do the drivetrain a lot of good, then there's the brakes as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I wouldn't have thought there would be too much problem with engine stress tbh. I haven't heard too many horror stories about the Supercharger systems causing too much stress to stock parts and some of them are pushing nigh on 300bhp on a 323/325! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 The one where they were overtaking lorrys and I'm sure Top gear fitted nitrous to a White jag Yep then i think they drove it off the end of a fighter ship in the middle of the ocean with the stig still inside. Back to being serious though there is a lot that can potentially go wrong with a NOS setup. Its highly likely you will explode your engine by putting the NOS through at the wrong time. For instance does the kit have a failsafe that only allows you to hit the go button at a suitable rev range, i.e. not to high and not too low? Personally i would speak to the manufacturer and ask for examples of their work, much like you would a paint sprayer or anyone else doing anything specialised to your pride and joy. See if you can find a tried and tested BMW to go and look at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 The controller will bring the power in slow at the start and ramp it up to full power so there won't be massive shocks through the drive line or on the crank Simon those are some good points I have been thinking about as standard none of them come with this feature withough spending crazy money on the controller but I'm designing some bits now one is a pressure switch on the fuel Line so if fuel pressure drops it kills the nitrous solenoid to stop lean out conditions Second I'm trying to get hold of an adjustable shift light with at least 2 lights so I can remove the lamps and make them fire relays one shift light at 3k revs to stop early activation and a second relay at 6250 to shut off so if I hit the limiter by accident it won't be on spray I spoke to won and they asked what fuel pressure the e46 runs so can get z rough idea on jetting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Well it sounds like your doing your homework and if its done properly then i dont doubt you will have what is potentially a lot of bang for the buck (no pun intended, in-fact i really hope it doesnt go bang). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
