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Right, i'm looking into replacing the gearbox oil when i put my shortshifter in (i doubt its been done before and at 140,000 miles i should think it would need it) i've done a bit of searching on here and looking at opie oils site and i just want to run through what oil i should/can use in my 5 speed manual

From what i've read i only need 1.1L as mines a 5 speed (6 speed uses 1.7L)

According to opie oils i should be using

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-981-fuchs-titan-sintofluid-sae-75w-80-synthetic-manual-transmission-fluid.aspx

but from another thread i see someone saying this stuff is better, and its a few quid cheaper.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-739-castrol-syntrans-multivehicle-75w-90-fully-synthetic-mtf-replaces-smx-s-75w-85.aspx#

annoyingly i need two bottles so the few quid difference adds up a bit, given the poundland nature of my superlight project i don't want to be buying M&S gearbox oil when just good gearbox oil will do, and lets face it sometimes things that are recommended are priced up and something else that technically is just as good but doesn't have a seal of approval is cheaper and may even perform better.

So what are peoples thoughts,. Stop being a pikey and order the Fuchs stuff or is the other stuff better/just as good.

Alternatively Halfords stock these two

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_209375_langId_-1_categoryId_255220

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_222101_langId_-1_categoryId_255220#tab1

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Going to be doing this on my 330i m sport soon. Going to do it as the clutch is being changed and the fubar'd gear lever centering springs. Bloody car has only got 70k on the clock. Never mind

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Royal purple syncromax or redline mtl both seem to get good press..

Actually for us UK boys it seems that a mix of redline MTF and D4ATF gives a good improvement. The MTF is great in summer but is a bit thick for our winter so cold shifting can be a little more difficult - hence why it's mixed with the ATF stuff.

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I have copied this from my blog

I spoke to the guys at Opie oils about what to use as I couldn’t see an oil listed for my car.

Firstly Opie were extremely helpful with this and recommend some 2 different oils for this application.

Red Line synthetic manual transmission lubricant 70W-80 GL4 – 1 US Quart (0.946 litre)

http://www.opieoils....70w-80-gl4.aspx

And

Red Line D4 synthetic automatic transmission fluid – 1 US Quart (0.946 litre)

http://www.opieoils....sion-fluid.aspx

My gearbox only needed 1.1 litres of fluid to fill.

I did the change over the weekend and have since done 50 or so miles in 3 days.

Before the oil change by gear change was quite notchy when cold, not just the box oil being cold but it get more notchy when the air temperature dropped too.

With this fluid in the box mixed 50/50 the gear change is smooth and no longer notchy.

I also feel that the gearbox is quieter whilst driving too, not that the box was noisy before the change.

I also changed the diff oil to a 75W-90 synthetic gear oil also from Opie but I decided to use this one after search the internet and various forums to see what others had used.

Again the diff only needs 1.1 litres of fluid to fill.

Again I feel that the diff is quieter whilst driving too, not that the box was noisy before the change. Really only noticed a slight diff whine whilst on the motorway which I don’t get at all now.

To do both jobs only took 30mins, with the aid of a friends pit and a hand pump to refill the box and diff. (I do take my time and clean threads out and clean other parts whilst I’m doing jobs, bit anal like that)

The hardest part of the job was removing the drain and fill plugs as they had obviously never been off and were pretty damn tight!

When I removed the oil diff oil it looked alot like very dirty dish water and had the same sort of consistency which I can’t imagine was doing very much in the way of protection. The same went for the gearbox oil. Neither had any fillings or anything unexpected in and both the plugs were clean.

So they were probably about due a change with the mileage @ 105000.

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This is what you need, as recommended by Opie Oils. I have used this on my old 525, I did the 330,s box with this and will be doing the e60 530 in the new year

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This is what i used too. I just went by opie's recomendation.

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Hi  

 

Can I use the same oil in the Diff and Gearbox? or am I missing somthing and are they made up of diffrent compinds.  

Also some times going into 1st Gear my gear can be notch or I have to put it in 2nd then 1st, will Oil change fix this?

Thanks

E46 2001 330Ci Owner 5 Speed Man

 

 

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