Olsrey Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Yeah already got a blank fitted to the inlet. Mine takes some time to get warm so it'll be done at the same time as thermostat and pump as previous owner either decided saving receipts wasn't necessary or didn't replace a thing. But knowing what I do about what he has touched on the car, it's probably the latter. The_Judge_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syemon Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Nice write up. Does the engine warm up any different than before? Quicker maybe? Hi, thanks It generally doesn't affect warm up so much, its more about keeping the engine cleaner and smoother by eliminating the waste gas recirculation and losing one extra thermostat you don't need. However, that being said, I posted a link in the first post which was my inspiration for some of the steps in this job. If you follow that link, then that really is a good guide for improving warm up times and mpg http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f91/e46-330d-thermostat-ac-water-pump-drive-belt-replace Thanks. Yes I already cleaned the egr and disabled it when I got the car. The reason I ask is that with the miles I do I have had two egr stat failures since I've had the car and wondered if it warmed up normally or quicker. think that the egr stat is not working quite as efficiently again so would much rather junk it than keep changing it as the egr is disabled anyway. I might as well get the delete pipe as well as I had one on my old e39 and it made a subtle difference and was worth having. The_Judge_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 hello ive got the 18mm inside diameter silicon pipe end caps. Do you just slip these over your coolant hose and tighten a jubilee clip over? A bit worried if the coolant system runs about 1 bar pressure (15 psi) the bung might pop off or as there isnt a solid internal for the hose to "grip" wouldnt the hose and bung not hold tight enough.. sorry if ive missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Alloy-Hose-Blanking-Plug-Bung-BOV-Dump-Valve-/200984021889?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&var=&hash=item2ecb94cb81#ht_2428wt_1397 would something like this be better with a jubilee clip? dont know what size i would need though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 My original hoses were held on with just a jubilee clip, when my mechanic took them off there is a small ridge on the inside to help grip the hose. I had this mod done last week and so far so good checked it everyday for leaks and the bung hasn't moved and there are no leaks, just make sure your bungs are between 16-18mm as there not always 100%. Due to the manufacturing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge_ Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 As above, I just used the silicon bungs and jubilee clips, no leak as of yet In fact, I remember when doing the job that simply placing one of the bungs in place held back the coolant giving me time to side the jubilee clip over it and tighten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge_ Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Alloy-Hose-Blanking-Plug-Bung-BOV-Dump-Valve-/200984021889?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&var=&hash=item2ecb94cb81#ht_2428wt_1397 would something like this be better with a jubilee clip? dont know what size i would need though Look good, let us know if you get the right ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 i dont suppose anyone knows the internal diameter of the two coolant pipes that go on the egr thermostat body save me taking it apart to measure, then waiting for part to arrive before using the car. cheers Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 should be 17-18 mm but its rubber so stretches etc, were defiantly a snug connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 hello SpanneR is that the inside bore or the outside diameter of the coolant pipe? If thats the size of external cap that sits over the pipe, the internal bore will be less cheers Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Its the Inside Bore, sorry not sure if the guide made it clear but the Internal Diameter or inside bore should be 17-18 mm any bigger and the bung will not fit properly and be too big. I orderered mine from Auto Silicon Hoses who I've used before for other things. Since fitting these I've now done over 1k miles with no issues. To test it wasn't leaking the mechanic got me to drive around the block for 10 mins with the car at temperature so it was under full coolant pressure and drive it hard on boost to try and make it leak. Since doing this I've had no leaks or adverse effects, car gets to temp quicker due to the egr stat being fubared and highlighted that my main stat is getting lazy as its taking 6 miles to get to temp so will need replacing in the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 thanks for your help SpanneR bungs now on order cheers Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 No problemo you doing this on a 330 or 320? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 320d ordered 16mm, 18mm and 19mm alloy bungs so should be ok :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ah cool so for the 320d you will need to cut one of the metal clips witch hold the EGR cooler hose to the cooling system or at least i did, you will see what i mean when you go to do it. Just make sure you have a saw ready lol. The_Judge_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 ok just been told ive got an electric fan and different instructions to the viscous fan............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanneR Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 You may have an electric fan infront and behind the radiator but these do not need to be removed they are not in the way. The 320d has sooo much room in front of the engine when you remove the covers you will see what i mean, the hardest bit is pulling the hoses off the pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh592 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Just incase anyone is thinking of doing this great mod I accidentally purchased 2 egr blanks in my ebay basket so if anyone is after one I can sell you my spare one for £11.99 minus the delivery cost to make it more appealing! You will also get it delivered a lot sooner obviously as the tafmet one comes from Poland and I'm in uk! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181216025801?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT *** SOLD *** Edited January 31, 2015 by mikeyh592 The_Judge_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aamir Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Had all the bits collected so I attempted it last night using this guide. Only difference on mine (later 204bhp engine) was my boost pipe to EGR connection is a hard plastic pipe, which doesn't fit the EGR bypass Pipe (£40 ebay jobbie). Now awaiting silicone replacement boost pipe before I can go further Big Thank You to Mr Suf, this guide was spot on ! Edited March 24, 2015 by Aamir The_Judge_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge_ Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Glad you found it useful, I can't take all the credit though as referenced on the first page It's good to hear of the differences on your engine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aamir Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Would just like to add some readings I got.... EGR Coolant: 89'c Inlet: 50'c EGR removed Coolant: 81'c (may need to connect the two coolant oulets together) Inlet: 25'c Readings taken in exactly same place, with same ambient conditions & warm up method used for both. Edited March 30, 2015 by Aamir CharlE46 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdale Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 good info Aamir so it looks like the fresh charge burning the fuel hotter, heats the engine LESS than puttting hot exhaust gas back into the charge and inefficient burn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Judge_ Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Funny how removing the extra thermostat means the coolant runs - cooler ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasa Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 does it really need to or want to run cooler or am i missing the label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlE46 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) does it really need to or want to run cooler or am i missing the label The intercooler cools the air down so why would you then want hot air heating it back up...... I'm referring to inlet temps rather than coolant temps. Edited March 30, 2015 by CharlE46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
