liam Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Can anyone tell me or give a link to the model range for BMW's please, my mates little brother has a 318 same as me fbut his is an SE, he seems to reckon the SE (Special Edition, im assuming) is faster, is this true ? is there any way of showing the difference betwen them eg CSL, Ci, SE and all ranges ? I have looked on google and forums with no luck and owuld love to know thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1MBR Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 SE is just a trim level (ie cruise control, leather seats etc) , nothing really to do with performance, the only spec level that can marginally affect performance is when it is a sport as it has uprated suspension etc, still doesnt inprove power output, teh clubsport would be the most drastic performance as a fair bit of weight was removed such as sound deadening. anyways, a 318i and a 318i SE will be just the same in terms of performance wiki has a good little round up of e46 info clicky just remembered, if you had one of the first e46 318s it would of had a 1.9l engine and later was a 2.0l engine which does affect performance obv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 thats interesting that it says SE The SE trim level included the options the ES trim level was given, but added cruise control, electric adjustable front seats, headlight washers, parking sensors, and a full leather interior as standard his car doesnt have leather interior, pretty sure it doesnt have headlight washers or cruise control as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 still doesnt inprove power output, Unless you include the e39 530d sport which is 193bhp rather than the standard 184 his car doesnt have leather interior, pretty sure it doesnt have headlight washers or cruise control as well. If he has a Multi-function steering wheel then it's likely he has cruise control too. Mine is an SE and doesnt have leather, headlight washers or electric seats lol But yeah, SE's arent faster lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 He doesnt have any controls at all on his steering wheel Unless you include the e39 530d sport which is 193bhp rather than the standard 184 Leather is an option on SE models and IIRC standard on Sport models. If he has a Multi-function steering wheel then it's likely he has cruise control too. Mine is an SE and doesnt have leather, headlight washers or electric seats lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Technically a SE will probably be slightly slower because it carries more weight. There's no difference in engine spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrimja Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Yup SE is just a trim level. It added cruise control, climate control and parking sensors. Leather was an option as was headlight washers and electric seats. You're mates brother is taking out of his pie hole in terms of power gains! Prove it to him by showing him the Parkers performance figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 What year is it m8? the standard equipment changed at a few points in the production i think. I'm assuming it's an early one with the triangle airbag rather than a round one? I think wiki gives details mainly on US spec cars so may well be different the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 arrr that might explain it. He has actually shown me his on parkers and his 318 is showing as 140bhp where as mine says its 118bhp. the year of his bmw is 1999, i have asked ghim and he defintley doesnt have cruise control, leahther seats or parking sensors but his log book does say its an SE What year is it m8? the standard equipment changed at a few points in the production i think. I'm assuming it's an early one with the triangle airbag rather than a round one? I think wiki gives details mainly on US spec cars so may well be different the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 hes not sure about triangle airbag....so basically it seems like the old SE doeant actually have any advantages on the SE model then ? arrr that might explain it. He has actually shown me his on parkers and his 318 is showing as 140bhp where as mine says its 118bhp. the year of his bmw is 1999, i have asked ghim and he defintley doesnt have cruise control, leahther seats or parking sensors but his log book does say its an SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Earlier 318s had less power than the newer ones His will definitely be a 1.9 118bhp engine if it's a 1999 car. They then went up to 140bhp in late 2001 then to 150bhp in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1MBR Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 oh gutted guess the only option left is to get a 330 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I had a brand new 2000 318i SE and I can confirm that it has the 118hp (8v) engine and that the spec DID NOT include cruise, leather or parking sensors. Back then the SE spec added alloy wheels (15"), extra interior lighting, centre arm rest at the front, front fog lights, carpet mats and climate control. I had to specify the multi function steering wheel to get cruise control and I also had to pay extra for the trip computer - they wern't standard. (neither was the CD player or 16" wheels I ordered too). Orange indicator lenses back then too. Happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Oh - and the ES is not just a cut down version of the SE - the spec was different. The ES got 16" wheels and sports suspension but lost some of the SE stuff. It was when the facelifted E46 came in in 2001 that the spec changed along with the newer 318 engine (140ish hp) and they added parking sensors, trip computer, cruise (MFSW) etc. 16" 7 spoke star alloys became standard then too (as they should have been in the first place) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrimja Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 There we go, someone that actually knows what they are on about :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob- Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thhe ones with the orange indicators must be pap then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lam Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm sure the SE's standard equipment changed when they re aranged the engine ranges for the 6 Cylinders to 320i, 325i and 330i. I've seen 2000 X plate SE's with the round airbag wheel with MFSW, parking sensors, 16" alloys, Electric REAR windows etc etc. Must be down to build date as there are some X plate SE's which are still on the old spec (no sensors, MFSW) Also worth adding regarding the ES's, it's kind of like what Vauxhall used to do with the Mk2 Cavalier, the SRi everyone wanted and it had the engine and gizmo's, the late facelift had a LXi which had alloys, lip spoiler and some other sporty bits but lacked engine and the gizmo's. Also ES's are restricted to 4 pot engines where as with a SE you have the full range to choose from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 On my 330 this is the standard equipment, then there was the extras Standard equipment 210 Dynamic Stability Control 226 Sports Suspension 249 Multi-func. Steering 255 Sport Steering Wheel 290 7 Star Style alloy wheels 302 Remote Control Alarm 428 First Aid Kit & Triangle 431 Auto-Dim Interior Mirrors 441 Smoker Package 459 Electric Fr Seats + Driver memory 470 ISOFIX Child Seat System 473 Front Centre Arm Rest 502 Headlamp Washer System 508 Park Distance Control 520 Front Fog lamps 521 Rain Sensor 534 Automatic Air Conditioning 550 On-Board Computer 692 CD Preparation 785 White Indicator Lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Interesting point ref the ES models - I never realised they were 4cyl cars only. I think you're right about the SE spec alteration and the engine re-vamps. They went from the 316, 318, 323 and 328 to having the 316, 318, 320, 325 and 330 didn't they. I was never really a fan of the 320i 6cyl 170hp as it sounded fine but really didn't have that much more poke than the 16v 318i that they were fitting at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itguy Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Covering a few of the other points asked by the OP... CSL - this is one model only and can be easily identified by the carbon roof, amazing 19" wheels, different bootlid with built-in spoiler (not one stuck on after) and the SINGLE inlet hole on the front bumper. The spec is based upon the M3 but is greatly enhanced, like an amazing carbon intake airbox for starters. Ci - this is just BMW speak for Coupe models Just to add to the confusion, there was a CS model as well, but I don't know that much about that - I beleive it was an M3 with half the CSL package - but not the engine mods or some of the carbon stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1MBR Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 cs is just clubsport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJM Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Not on the M3's tho. IIRC its Compertition Sport, Had the CSL wheels (alloy not Magneasium) the CSL stering rack and a few other little bits, also less sound deadning too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Not on the M3's tho. IIRC its Compertition Sport, Had the CSL wheels (alloy not Magneasium) the CSL stering rack and a few other little bits, also less sound deadning too. BMW did another weird one, the CS has the competition pack but CS means nothing apparently. I always though it was a M3 clubsport, and the CSL was a ultra lighweight version. But apparently not, well nothing i can find for sure anywhere, and the M3 registry has no name for it. It did have the brakes, steering rack, alloy wheels as CJM says, and a few other bits like the traction control etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
