Daz 330 Cs Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'll back up my theory with the below example, which funnily enough is an old car I used to own. The external modifications were simply a fresh set of 205 GTi speedlines, lowered 35mm, good tread and a pug sport exhaust. The white Rallye looks fine , NOT Barry at all as its subtle mods . However the Blue monstrosity underneath it IS indeed VERY BARRY . Awful bonnet scoop, front snow plough, Chavvy tints, Shopping list down the doors ..... & Barry eyebrows on the headlights . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Thats sort of true in Germany but they have found a way around it. They can import a car already modified without the issues. I know 2 people that have sold their cars to German buyers over there now and it's increasing as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Nice posts, noclue and nick87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think thats the issue really. Yes you have the right, but then so does everyone else. You cant say that but then shoot someone down when they mention a bit of stretch. This is definitely the worst forum for arguements I've been on over stretch/non stretch. Just agree to disagree, chillax and let others get on with it. I never actually made a comment as to how I thought the stretched look looks. Anything that is regarding looks is up to the owner and I wont come along and slate them for it, even if I dont like it. In fact I think some of the responses on this thread regarding the look of it are a bit out of order and uncalled for. What I did make reference to was the clear safety implications having this set up will cause. I share the roads with people with this unsafe and quite ridiculous "modification". To be quite honest, I feel any one doing it is an absolute mug for putting not only their own lives/cars at risk but any one elses as well. If the worst happened and some one tyre/rim failed and they involved me in their family I would take this through the courts to have the driver punished as severely as possible. It's dangerous, irresponsible and down right stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think it looks crap. You guys are all a bunch of muppets. This forum is rubbish. OMG that's so barry. Gay. OEM. Slammed. Awesome. Slick. Sick. Still enjoying this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think it looks crap. You guys are all a bunch of muppets. This forum is rubbish. OMG that's so barry. Gay. OEM. Slammed. Awesome. Slick. Sick. Still enjoying this thread You make me crack up - keep up the good work. This is you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Turko Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 No offence but as mentioned in Nick87's post, You've assumed something from a few that take the extreme, and stereotyped everyone in that styling 'genre'. Done sensibly, there is nothing wrong with a low stanced car and subtle stretched tyre. Lets be serious here, its no more dangerous than some bird in a standard car running her tyres at 45psi. The contradiction of this thread is that people are calling slammed cars un-driveable, and that they wont go quicker than 15mph. Yet they're the biggest threat to road safety with potential blowouts at 150mph+ Matt apologies for coming across as personal in my first post. The quote was to just elaborate on a point you made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The contradiction of this thread is that people are calling slammed cars un-driveable, and that they wont go quicker than 15mph. Yet they're the biggest threat to road safety with potential blowouts at 150mph+ Won't go quick around corners. A straight line they'll be fine. Also, I think people call them undriveable due to speed bumps, pot holes etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The contradiction of this thread is that people are calling slammed cars un-driveable, and that they wont go quicker than 15mph. Yet they're the biggest threat to road safety with potential blowouts at 150mph+ I don't think the same people have said both things. I said the 15mph thing but in the same post I said evidence suggests it's not dangerous because the incidence of problems related to stretched tyres is low. So there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm not against fitting tyres within recommended tollerances. I'm not against lowering a car. I think it's daft when a car is lowered to such an extreme, on such large wheels that it affects the useability of the car. If however the car still functions correctly, IE doesnt bottom out, doesnt scrub, doeant have negative and dangerous handling effects its owner choice really. I do think there's another safety issue if that lowering causes the tyres to scrub on sharp metal arches though. I am only referring to those that fit extremely wide wheels and narrow tyres when I say it's a safety issue with regards to the stretch look. Anything outside of the recommended tollerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Turko Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't think the same people have said both things. I said the 15mph thing but in the same post I said evidence suggests it's not dangerous because the incidence of problems related to stretched tyres is low. So there LOL, thats why I said 'contradiction of the thread' People is a plural. So there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Well i very much welcome the response from the OP and it is good to know that there are still people out there with a bit of common sense. Still this has been a great read and quite possibly one of the more interesting threads we have had of late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 it is good to know that there are still people out there with a bit of common sense. The thing about common sense is that it's not as common as the description suggests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 edit - I forgot the point of this thread. Back on point... I read in a VW magazine that legally, the tyre tread must not stick out beyond the arch and the wheel itself must not stick out anymore than 30mm from the arch... JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz666 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 What a good read..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danw8986 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 It is becoming known around other forums how up tight and useless most members are on here, and how easy they are to wind up.... link to one of these threads ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Syxx Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 link to one of these threads ? x2 I've only just read the rest of this thread as I got bored by the second page a while back but has become an interesting read! In terms of few knowledgable people on this forum, I would have agreed with this statement a few years back when this site was up and running. To me it was a social forum. Now its a social and to some extent technical as well. It may not be up to par with Fanatics but they have been around a whole lot longer. And as this site grows as it continually does so does the wealth of knowledge on here. Jorge you say 99% of stuff is diag this diag that. But some of the problems that come up need a diagnostic so you can pin point the problem. No good to someone when they have a light come and someone comes along as a "know-it-all" says it definitely is this, that person goes off replaces x-y-z and the problem is still there. Back on topic I don't have anything against stretched tyres but I think it goes a step too far when its overdone to the point where its not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz666 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 after reading this a second time now some of you guys really scare me... and make me feel that i should never turn up to a meet or show unless it was a modified one, one thing thats right tho.....i have tints it will be lowered on stretched tyres and my name is Barry so when you guys call me Barry i will just say "what" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenon Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 and i thought this was such a nice place. joke, its great, and this thread proves it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 stretch is legal because Rx-8's come with it as standard to improove handling accroding to mazda. How ever Poke is illegal it its over 30mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamN Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 stretch is legal because Rx-8's come with it as standard to improove handling accroding to mazda. How ever Poke is illegal it its over 30mm Haven't read the whole thread, but i was under the impression 'poke' was legal as long as the tyre tread was under the arch. Sorry if this has been covered above somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Haven't read the whole thread, but i was under the impression 'poke' was legal as long as the tyre tread was under the arch. Sorry if this has been covered above somewhere. Yeah it it but then like with eveything the strech got more as did the poke, but most police will state anypoke more than 30mm regardless if the tread is within the arch is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omex_uk Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiksilver_TR Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 So from the above table then, I should be able to run 245/35 on the rear mv2s for a little stretch to make sure the tyres clear the arches. Currently running 255/35 but would 245/35 give any stretch? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosri Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I wouldn't think you could even see the difference between 255 and 245 mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
