Scottfreee3 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Alright guys, the only thing coming on in the computer now is EGR?? What you guys reckon, valve, cooler or something else? The pedal has 2 sensors (1 does idle to 50% trottle and the other does 50% to 100%). A long shot but it could be this. I asked my mechanic about the cam sensor again and he insists this is the problem. The problem was the ecu was losing contact with the sensor causing the engine to revv like mad until you turn the key off. I didn't ask if it came up as a code or not. But he said the engine would start no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooge Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 99% going to be electronic. Its got to be either a combination of two faults that are causing a weird signal for the ECU and its revving its tits off or something major has failed. Purely from a safety aspect electronic stuff can be controlled if it fails so id expect BMW to set anything like that into limp mode. If it fails, revs uncontrollably and causes an accident wouldnt it? I hope you get it sorted buddy, sorry my post isnt a cure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 There's no way oil leaking into the cylinders would make it rev like that. It would just tick over. The only way revs increase is by opening the throttle body letting in more air. On old cars that was simply a cable attached to your throttle pedal but on new cars its electrical. There's most likely a throttle position sensor that sends a signal to the throttle body and that's where I'd be looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 There's no way oil leaking into the cylinders would make it rev like that. It would just tick over. The only way revs increase is by opening the throttle body letting in more air. On old cars that was simply a cable attached to your throttle pedal but on new cars its electrical. There's most likely a throttle position sensor that sends a signal to the throttle body and that's where I'd be looking. Any body got a guide as to where this sensor is located and how to replace it? I really cant afford to be taking this to a mechanic again and I do have an e46 318i lying in the yard for parts. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmlopes Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 The 320D does not have a throttle position sensor, it has a throttle pedal pedal position sensor actually on the pedal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_330CI Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 The 320D does not have a throttle position sensor, it has a throttle pedal pedal position sensor actually on the pedal...... Sounds right. Is it a sprung switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuBeeDoo Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 The 320D does not have a throttle position sensor, it has a throttle pedal pedal position sensor actually on the pedal...... Correct. Diesels don't have a throttle body. No throttle body, no TPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 The 320D does not have a throttle position sensor, it has a throttle pedal pedal position sensor actually on the pedal...... Correct. Diesels don't have a throttle body. No throttle body, no TPS. So whats my best options here, just remove the pedal and fit another? A mate of mine has a 320d for breaking. Replace pedal and see what happens? As for diagnostics, my mechanic used a neighbours computer who owns an indy BMW garage. So the right diagnostics was used. The car is now even worse, doing it now from third gear onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottfreee3 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 If you disconnect to turbo what happens? Does it still race away? Does it do it more slowly or not at all? If it still does it, it may be a fueling issue. If it doesn't could be a vacuum problem....... Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocka Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 My money is on what ever controls the fuelling on a diesel. how does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I am going to try this sensor first and hope for the best http://workshop-manuals.com/bmw/3_series_e46/320d_m47_tour/2_repair_instructions/13__fuel_system_%28m47%29/62__sensor_for_control_unit/1_ra__removing_and_installing___replacing_pedal_travel_sensor_%28m47___m57%29/page_820/ Is these the sensor? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19ryanh93 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Fuelling on a 320D has 3 pumps and one filter. It has the lift pump (in the tank) this then feeds a pre supply pump (low pressure) which is situated under the passenger footwell which is in line with the filter (also under the passenger seat) this then goes up to the high pressure pump in the engine bay attached to the rail which is driven off the timing chain. There is then a return which goes to the passenger side of the tank. It might be worth doing a leak off test on all four injectors while your at it (probably nothing at all) but mine had injector issues not so long ago as well as an EGR that was well absolutely rock solid so might be worth whipping that off and giving it a clean (takes 5 mins to take off) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 EGR is perfect, I was think it could be an injector. I have the sensor of from behind the pedal, replacing it tomorrow. fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottfreee3 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Fuelling on a 320D has 3 pumps and one filter. It has the lift pump (in the tank) this then feeds a pre supply pump (low pressure) which is situated under the passenger footwell which is in line with the filter (also under the passenger seat) this then goes up to the high pressure pump in the engine bay attached to the rail which is driven off the timing chain. There is then a return which goes to the passenger side of the tank. It might be worth doing a leak off test on all four injectors while your at it (probably nothing at all) but mine had injector issues not so long ago as well as an EGR that was well absolutely rock solid so might be worth whipping that off and giving it a clean (takes 5 mins to take off) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He has the older engine which is not common rail. Not sure where the final pump is located on it . Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluminusbutterfly Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Definitely sounds like somehow it's running on it's own oil, probably knackared turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Definitely sounds like somehow it's running on it's own oil, probably knackared turbo Its had a replacement turbo fitted, still the same. Fitted the sensor behind the brake pedal yesterday, still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Definitely sounds like somehow it's running on it's own oil, probably knackared turbo If it were a turbo you wouldn't be able to turn the car off unless you stall it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluminusbutterfly Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Good point well made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryW Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I'd be disconnecting all electrical, start up and if it idles then start the process or re connection. I've had a pulse generator cause similar issues on my Motorbike. When it happened in 3rd gear it came as a shock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuBeeDoo Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) . Edited April 19, 2014 by StuBeeDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...