Phantom Mark Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Well sadly I wimped out of my E46 M3 WTCC project car and it was sold, it was just far too much to take on my own on my driveway. Good news is that I managed to recoup most of my costs and end up very little out of pocket. So today I managed to secure a great deal on a fairly well prepped E36 328i 4 Door, fully caged, M3 diff, coilovers, bler bler, the whole nine yards..... Edited June 24, 2014 by Sam mit, TriggerFish, momo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Your not going to miss that coming down the road!!! Has it been on a dyno recently? Looks pretty bad ass though, Is it road legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 No idea if it has been on a Dyno, but seller says it has all the usual 328 mods, M50 intake manifold, BBTB, all the emissions stuff removed, free flow exhaust etc, he estimates a realistic 200+ bhp, it is surely good enough as a base. He is delivering it next week for me, currently no MOT but is road legal in the sense it has all the bits it will need for an MOT. Once it arrives and I can have a good poke around and see what it needs, I know I need to weld a jacking point, no problem, but will check carefully around the car to see what else it needs. The green is kinda in your face for sure, and no doubt it will change a little in time, thinking about that now, but most importantly it is a nearly ready to use track car Long term would be nice to supercharge or turbo it......we shall see, have enough of pipe dreams, want to focus on reality based on the time I have rather another project which sits and waits for me to get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 it certainly looks a 'mean green racing machine' lol, congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Fair play mate. I'd keep the colour personally, imagine that in your rear view on track, badass! Regarding turbo/supercharger - Having started the process myself if i were doing it again i would just go S54 and be done with it. Out of the box reliable power and with a few choice mods and some decent mapping you could probably see 360+ BHP and it will cost you less in the long run than a FI build. Edited June 24, 2014 by simonlpearce Phantom Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Trouble is Simon I already proved once I lack the technical conviction for an engine change, and was hoping to have some help from my mechanic mate which never transpired, also including the fact that not one local garage would entertain doing the engine swap for me despite having every single part I could need and a wallet full of cash to help my project move forward, well we all know what happened then, big dreams turned out to be nothing more than dreams eh.........sick of dreaming, trying to live purely in reality in future, with that in mind whatever I do will probably be quite low key and anything more adventurous will probably see the car going away for a while out of the area where there is people who can do proper mechanics jobs like this instead of just being able to fit parts like an exhaust fitter, at best the locals are average mechanics from what I have seen and are talent limited to fitting injectors to a tractor rather than swapping engines in a car with all the electronics to hand Cannockwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_h Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 different are you going to de-impreza the boot lid? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Choker Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Change your user name to HUGIO. love it www.bobsbmw.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 different are you going to de-impreza the boot lid? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Not unless I can find a genuine GT2 replacement no (or a good replica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Didn't realise the Impreza spoiler fit so well! Lol Edited June 25, 2014 by momo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yeah fair play. The problem you will have with FI is mapping. My Siemens ECU was one of the ones that couldn't be mapped, more info below. http://www.bmwowner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=212254&hilit=+SIEMENS Of course you could go down the standalone route like i have, but again you need to find someone that can wire and map it for you. That said i reckon you probably could build your own loom as there are plenty of detailed instructions on most ECU manufacturer websites, and Emerald were very helpful when mine was fitted, as was Blair. Phantom Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr T Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 there's a thread on e36coupe with dyno read outs and mods listed, the m50 manifold, btbb and bw chiptune map has been shown to give 232bhp here's a link, the map is on page 50 of the thread http://e36coupe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5204&sid=2fd75bd374ec59067211dcde41b7f832&start=735 Keeping things pretty sensible i'd say just focus on lightening it up if you've already got power around 230 to 240. as its track prepared i'm guessing most things have been done but there's always more that can be done and it's usually just bolt off bolt on kind of stuff that you'll be all over. I really noticed a difference on my 328i when i swapped from the light rc041 wheels to heavier style 68's, now i'm on 15" style 13's and it feels even more lively. Not sure how much a grp bonnet would be but that would save a few kgs too. Phantom Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yes, mate, going to follow your lead with that one, every KG saved is free power to weight ratio at the end of the day, and much cheaper than tuning the other end of that scale From what the guy I am buying it says it already has all those mods on it, we will see when it arrives next week tho Nice link btw , ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yes, mate, going to follow your lead with that one, every KG saved is free power to weight ratio at the end of the day, and much cheaper than tuning the other end of that scale Im losing around 60kg from my car, do you reckon thats enough to 'feel' a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerFish Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) 60kg is like carrying a female passenger I'd guess? I don't really think it's noticeable in a car with as much power as mine, let alone yours! I love this though. The colour and spoiler are so in your face, it's great. Just as long as it's not taken too seriously anyway. Edit - 60kg = ~9.5 stone, so yeah, a small person I guess. Edited June 25, 2014 by TriggerFish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wash Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yes, mate, going to follow your lead with that one, every KG saved is free power to weight ratio at the end of the day, and much cheaper than tuning the other end of that scale Im losing around 60kg from my car, do you reckon thats enough to 'feel' a difference?It will be the difference between sitting on your own and having a normal sized passenger on board, I reckon you will feel a little difference but it definitely won't be night and day. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannockwolf Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 in that case if i lost my belly i could loose nearly another 30KG pmsl.... f**k that! TriggerFish, Phantom Mark and momo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 You wouldn't hardly notice it so much on the road as you would the track that's for sure, ask a touring car driver how he would feel about pulling a 60kg weight penalty Cannockwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlpearce Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 60KG is definitely noticeable in my VX220, its loads more sluggish under acceleration, but then thats a car that is focused on power to weight ratio. Also i would take some of those maps with a pinch of salt in that thread. Phantom Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yay, it is being delivered tomorrow Feeling quite excited already now Been looking at a ton of stuff for the E36, so much more available than there is for the E46. Annoyingly I cannot use my E46 Saloon GTR Bonnet on the E36 so need to offload that and find a E36 version instead, that said I saw an E36 with an E46 front end modification so maybe there is a way to fit it ? Anyone know ? Blair and Cannockwolf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Well had a quick look around it today and found the following jobs to do... Foot plate needs fabricating for the drivers side as it has just been stripped out, no problem got a large long section of chequer plate aluminium perfect for that already, weld in a couple of brackets job done no hassle. Near side rear jacking point gone, which I knew about already, however having had a quick poke Imreckon when I remove the sill cover I will discover rear half of the sill is shot as well, again, no big deal really. The large grommet thing which sits behind the drivers seat is removed, thus a large hole, think I will simply weld a plate across the top and forget about it tbh, why do they fit those btw ? The whole of the floor behind the axle has been removed and replaced with a flat alloy floor, needs a little tidying. Wiring all round has been stripped and lightened, saves me the effort, but it does need tidying up visually. Battery is just sat on the bit above the tank, not strapped in or anything ATM, thinking of either mounting it between the strut tops in the middle above rear axle ( roll cage is around it as well ) or more likely making a proper mounting point behind the passenger seat, should I enclose it and leave a breather hole ? Just not liking the idea of the battery spinning around behind my head if the car went over on its roof etc ? Need to tidy all the welds on the cage, and check welds carefully, they are a tidy bit lazy in appearance in places, whilst not a show car I just wanna make it look right, the. I need to rub down all the cage and repaint it properly and all some pipe lagging in a couple of places to finish. Outside is scruffy paint wise and needs a few details to tidy it up, I can either go for a good rattle can job (I'm pretty ok with a can actually) or try and learn how to use my paint kit and compressor (it's a basic one but probably more than capable of out performing me) Couple of seals around Perspex rear windows need making nice etc, no big deal, a crack in some filler where door strips have been removed and smoothed, So sounds like a lot , but tbh once I've done the welding and battery it's pretty much good to use straight away and make a rolling restoration I think. Cannockwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blair Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 It's nice to have a few jobs to fix/sort and it'll soon feel like your car ? Phantom Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Mark Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) I agree mate, not sure even if I had money I would want something that needed nothing at all doing for the reasons you mention I have never welded a car before tbh, I have done tons of thin box section however and quite tidy with that so feel confident I can do a good enough job for a track car at least. Where would you place that battery btw Blair ??? Behind the passenger seat in some sort of secure enclosure seems to make the most sense to me ? Sorry for my iPad typing above btw lol Edited June 29, 2014 by Phantom Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
